hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: The frustration of the Superman/Wonder Woman Fandom as expressed by our very own godstaff “There seems to be more merchandise about Supes and Wondy as a couple than any other pairing in comic history. And they’re not even one! No other stable or unstable “romantic” duo had so much exposure as this. DC franchises put them together in every conceivable selling item, yet DC Comics writers, or, more precisely editors, refuse to involve them romantically in their main stream books or animations!” “…double standards…” Yeah, Gus, we share your frustration. Best selling graphic novels, greeting cards, Halloween Costumes, cosplays, action figures, t-shirts, homage in televison and movies, His and Hers merchandise, household, baby items, wedding merchants, accessories etc etc…And then there is the fact that the characters in main stream comics DO have synergy and chemistry together. So much wasted potential by the powers that be.
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The frustration of the Superman/Wonder Woman Fandom as expressed by our very own godstaff

“There seems to be more merchandise about Supes and Wondy as a couple than any other pairing in comic history. And they’re not even one! No other stable or unstable “romantic” duo had so much exposure as this. DC franchises put them together in every conceivable selling item, yet DC Comics writers, or, more precisely editors, refuse to involve them romantically in their main stream books or animations!”

“…double standards…”


Yeah, Gus, we share your frustration. Best selling graphic novels, greeting cards, Halloween Costumes, cosplays, action figures, t-shirts, homage in televison and movies, His and Hers merchandise, household, baby items, wedding merchants, accessories etc etc…And then there is the fact that the characters in main stream comics DO have synergy and chemistry together. So much wasted potential by the powers that be.

hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: Kal and Diana have their own “From Here to Eternity” moment. Art by our own countryboylife
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Kal and Diana have their own “From Here to Eternity” moment.

Art by our own countryboylife

hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: Thank you all who love and see the potential of this awesome ship. The classic kiss to Action 600 seemed apt but we hope this time around DC don’t wuss out and disappointed us like they did the many fans who waited  back in the 80ties for Kal and Diana to get together. Let them know a market has been waiting for decades and is waiting for a romance in canon.
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Thank you all who love and see the potential of this awesome ship. The classic kiss to Action 600 seemed apt but we hope this time around DC don’t wuss out and disappointed us like they did the many fans who waited  back in the 80ties for Kal and Diana to get together. Let them know a market has been waiting for decades and is waiting for a romance in canon.

hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: Ever since Bleeding Cool ran the story “I’m told that Superman and Wonder Woman will be getting together.” There has been a flurry of activity. Since May, since Flashpoint, we know the article was correct “Because this may be as a result of DC Universe/Flashpoint merged continuity, with a non-married Superman and a non-married Lois Lane.” For a vocal and verbose group of fans - who are rightfully entitled to love and enjoy whatever stories they dig - the prospect of the DC Story, not including Lois and Clark, as a married couple, is a disaster. It maybe that Superman and Wonder Woman hook up again. Given DC’s record in the matter of relationships I am circumspect. The way it’s handled is important, ( I mean I want it to be great ) but less so, from this fans point of view, is that it happens at all! After all the shipping of this romantic pairing goes back decades, and was based initially on a handful of panels in a handful of stories, yet it grew to a place where so many people - couples instinctively gravitate to the inherent rightness there in. Perhaps the idea of two similar yet very different people together extends so easily beyond the insular funny books fan-base because it requires no complex mental gymnastics and techno babble to explain. Where as Super/Wonder Person with an human being does. Many have written that they expect Lois and Clark / Diana and Steve soap operas to be retold again. That maybe the case, I actually hope not, outside of Imaginary Stories - which are the best vehicle for this IMO. Certainly in the ‘New 52’ Superman title there has been reference to that famous two person love triangle. What has surprised me is the antagonism from certain quarters against Diana and Kal, yes even this blog, and our wider Superman and Wonder Woman family ( see links on the Hell Yeah Superman and Wonder Woman Page ) Long ago as a kid I realised that doing something well tended to incite opposition born out of jealousy, and fear. It could be the prospect of a canon Superman and Wonder Woman relationship alarms certain fans, because - and I am unashamed to say that I hope this will be; that Diana and Kal just might stick. Such is the Zeitgeist of the moment, the untapped expectation - the possibility of mass merchandising $$$ especially come valentines day. Whatever happens - be it the expected same old same old, or some thing new, this blog and our contributors and friends will continue to celebrate the exciting stories possible with Superman and Wonder Woman.
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hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman:

Ever since Bleeding Cool ran the story “I’m told that Superman and Wonder Woman will be getting together.” There has been a flurry of activity.

Since May, since Flashpoint, we know the article was correct “Because this may be as a result of DC Universe/Flashpoint merged continuity, with a non-married Superman and a non-married Lois Lane.”

For a vocal and verbose group of fans - who are rightfully entitled to love and enjoy whatever stories they dig - the prospect of the DC Story, not including Lois and Clark, as a married couple, is a disaster.

It maybe that Superman and Wonder Woman hook up again.

Given DC’s record in the matter of relationships I am circumspect.

The way it’s handled is important, ( I mean I want it to be great ) but less so, from this fans point of view, is that it happens at all!

After all the shipping of this romantic pairing goes back decades, and was based initially on a handful of panels in a handful of stories, yet it grew to a place where so many people - couples instinctively gravitate to the inherent rightness there in.

Perhaps the idea of two similar yet very different people together extends so easily beyond the insular funny books fan-base because it requires no complex mental gymnastics and techno babble to explain. Where as Super/Wonder Person with an human being does.

Many have written that they expect Lois and Clark / Diana and Steve soap operas to be retold again. That maybe the case, I actually hope not, outside of Imaginary Stories - which are the best vehicle for this IMO. Certainly in the ‘New 52’ Superman title there has been reference to that famous two person love triangle.

What has surprised me is the antagonism from certain quarters against Diana and Kal, yes even this blog, and our wider Superman and Wonder Woman family ( see links on the Hell Yeah Superman and Wonder Woman Page )

Long ago as a kid I realised that doing something well tended to incite opposition born out of jealousy, and fear.

It could be the prospect of a canon Superman and Wonder Woman relationship alarms certain fans, because - and I am unashamed to say that I hope this will be; that Diana and Kal just might stick. Such is the Zeitgeist of the moment, the untapped expectation - the possibility of mass merchandising $$$ especially come valentines day.

Whatever happens - be it the expected same old same old, or some thing new, this blog and our contributors and friends will continue to celebrate the exciting stories possible with Superman and Wonder Woman.

hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: Only a Wonder Woman can wear out a Superman. Gotta love that tiara on his head! Supes and Wondy’s Bed Wreckage by godstaff
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Only a Wonder Woman can wear out a Superman. Gotta love that tiara on his head!

Supes and Wondy’s Bed Wreckage by godstaff

hellacre13: cheeseyfryjack: thegoddamazon: hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: Friends and Followers of this Blog. You’re probably aware that Hell Yeah Superman and Wonder Woman stands accused over at dcwomenkickingass tumblr of being ” openly insulting and offensive to other women in comics fandom and it has repeatedly included misogynistic and degrading comments about Lois Lane and even worse it has placed judgements on all of the women who love her.  It’s a site that has quite literally attempted to police feminism through misogynistic statements and treated other female fans who have questioned the behavior and asked the behavior to stop with extreme disrespect and insults.” Initially we ignored this here, and attempted a dialogue over at dcwomenkickingass page via Disqus. Suddenly our comments and those of other contributors and friends of this blog were greeted with a warning that comments were being moderated. These comments subsequently didn’t appear. Currently some comments are getting through, and this is welcome, although the reality that previous attempts have failed isn’t encouraging. Was this cockup or conspiracy? We’ll let you decide. Yet this isn’t the reason why I post this quote. ” I do have a problem with the posts involve derogatory language about other female characters. It’s a shame that you have to take that tact. And that attitude is certainly not any kind of trip to obscurity. There’s another Wonder Woman shipping site that is VERY popular despite displaying homophobic attitudes and using proxy servers on my site .” The implication is clear - that the success of this new to tumblr blog is because you our followers accept - and or even approve of the “derogatory language about other female characters” Of course we refute these allegations as untrue - but in the spirit of the ideals Superman and Wonder Woman were created to embody, it is beholden on us to be open and honest about these allegations. These posts have been flagged on dcwomenkickingass’s blog as offensive. http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… The bottom line is this, those who liked and or reblogged any of these posts also stand accused. We accept that we’ve used comics to poke fun at the characters involved, but not that any of this was intended to be, or was offensive to the reasonably minded. We’re been open and honest about this because we genuinely want to create a fun blog that celebrates our favourite characters. We do this as much for you as we do this for ourselves. So again we remind everyone that we accept ASK and provide an easy to use comment service via Disqus. Thanks for following. But I’m not offended and I’m female; and I ship for Supes and Diana (and sometimes Bruce and Diana). Some of these posts are legit funny. People need to stop taking every little thing out of context. We’re all DCU fans, and there’s plenty of fans out there who don’t give a fuck if you insult their faves. Chill out. That’s that bullshit lol I follow both of these blogs, and I am a female and SERIOUSLY NOT OFFENDED in any kind of way….CALM YOUR TITS (<—yup I said it, that derogatory too?) Thank you ladies. As a lady myself and who contributes to this blog with Charles, it seriously has taken all my restraint to be calm about this. Since when does any of those posts have any offensive derogatory words that a filter can pick up? And is she crazy to likening what we said to homophobic sites??? Is she filtering normal words like “and” and “but” as well? Talk about nonsensical. It’s their way of trying to censor us which is entirely unfortunate and ironic since they are not practicing what they preach.
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cheeseyfryjack:

thegoddamazon:

hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman:

Friends and Followers of this Blog. You’re probably aware that Hell Yeah Superman and Wonder Woman stands accused over at dcwomenkickingass tumblr of being

” openly insulting and offensive to other women in comics fandom and it has repeatedly included misogynistic and degrading comments about Lois Lane and even worse it has placed judgements on all of the women who love her.  It’s a site that has quite literally attempted to police feminism through misogynistic statements and treated other female fans who have questioned the behavior and asked the behavior to stop with extreme disrespect and insults.”

Initially we ignored this here, and attempted a dialogue over at dcwomenkickingass page via Disqus. Suddenly our comments and those of other contributors and friends of this blog were greeted with a warning that comments were being moderated.

These comments subsequently didn’t appear.

Currently some comments are getting through, and this is welcome, although the reality that previous attempts have failed isn’t encouraging.

Was this cockup or conspiracy? We’ll let you decide.

Yet this isn’t the reason why I post this quote.

” I do have a problem with the posts involve derogatory language about other female characters. It’s a shame that you have to take that tact. And that attitude is certainly not any kind of trip to obscurity. There’s another Wonder Woman shipping site that is VERY popular despite displaying homophobic attitudes and using proxy servers on my site .”

The implication is clear - that the success of this new to tumblr blog is because you our followers accept - and or even approve of the “derogatory language about other female characters”

Of course we refute these allegations as untrue - but in the spirit of the ideals Superman and Wonder Woman were created to embody, it is beholden on us to be open and honest about these allegations.

These posts have been flagged on dcwomenkickingass’s blog as offensive.

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

The bottom line is this, those who liked and or reblogged any of these posts also stand accused.

We accept that we’ve used comics to poke fun at the characters involved, but not that any of this was intended to be, or was offensive to the reasonably minded.

We’re been open and honest about this because we genuinely want to create a fun blog that celebrates our favourite characters.

We do this as much for you as we do this for ourselves. So again we remind everyone that we accept ASK and provide an easy to use comment service via Disqus.

Thanks for following.


But I’m not offended and I’m female; and I ship for Supes and Diana (and sometimes Bruce and Diana). Some of these posts are legit funny. People need to stop taking every little thing out of context. We’re all DCU fans, and there’s plenty of fans out there who don’t give a fuck if you insult their faves. Chill out.

That’s that bullshit lol I follow both of these blogs, and I am a female and SERIOUSLY NOT OFFENDED in any kind of way….CALM YOUR TITS (<—yup I said it, that derogatory too?)

Thank you ladies. As a lady myself and who contributes to this blog with Charles, it seriously has taken all my restraint to be calm about this. Since when does any of those posts have any offensive derogatory words that a filter can pick up? And is she crazy to likening what we said to homophobic sites??? Is she filtering normal words like “and” and “but” as well? Talk about nonsensical. It’s their way of trying to censor us which is entirely unfortunate and ironic since they are not practicing what they preach.

hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: We Wonder Women love our Super Men  art by Jeff Hubert To all the men who are a part of this group and the whole Superman/Wonder Woman fandom. This was written by one of our female members called Arcadia. Arcadia is a strong, professional woman who was baffled at the accusations leveled at Charles and the men who support us and this tumblr by a certain other blog that claims it is about speaking on behalf of women. Rather we should say it speaks on behalf of a group of women with a particular interest. As a woman myself who post much of these images here, I support Charles, and his right to freedom of expression and I claim my right as a woman to speak for myself.   Arcadia in a very heartfelt post had this to say and the women of Hellyeahsupermanwonderwoman, the Superman/Wonder Woman Yahoo group, Superman Wonder Woman on Deviant Art, and the Fan Archive and Fan Fiction.Net, Fan Pop and many other brother and sisters sites want to join hands as we agree with what she had to say….   I am a female, I have feministic views, I am independent, I am confident in myself that I don’t need to tear others down to make myself look good and I LOVE MY MEN IN THE SMWW GROUP!   I love your wit. I love your intelligence. I love your sensitivity. I love your honesty. I love your optimism. I love your kindness. I love your geekiness. I love your admiration, love and respect you have for your wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters, neices, female cousins, aunts and grandmothers. Yes, yes I know you have the same feelings for the males in your life but I’m on a roll here. Don’t stop me. :) I love your masculinity. I love your confidence. I love how you will stand your ground even when you are on an island alone. Right now I am thinking of you, Ben, during the tournament where you were the only male and only person (until I voted) to support Superman beating Wonder Woman. You could’ve joined Mark and Donny in jumping the Wonder Woman bandwagon but you, my friend, stood your ground and I proudly stand with you. LOL! I love having thought provoking conversations be it SM/WW or real world events. I love your sick, twisted humor. Donny, Mark, Paul and Ron I think of you. I love your humility. I love how you are not afraid to be vulnerable and open because you know we got your back here. I think of you Paul when you lost your dog and you Donny when Little C was born. I love how you put it all out there sometimes embarrassing yourself even though you make us laugh. I think of your funny stories, Donny. One story comes to mind between you, your wife and your sister-in-law. LOL!  And you Robenson, how you admit to not understanding women until you married your wife. I love how you have our backs as well. When reviewers attacked H, Meejay or me for our stories and art, you know what to say to make us feel better or you come to our defense. I love how much of a gentleman you all are. I think of you Henry and your wonderful gift when I went to New York and I especially thank you, Mark, for looking out for me as well. I couldn’t have made my way through New York without you. I treasure the memories. There are so many things I love about you all but most of all I love your respect for women!   So, if anyone attacks you verbally, accuses you of misogyny or anything vile don’t worry about their misguided hate, don’t let them beat you down from your beliefs. Stand up and hold your ground. Real feminist including the women in our group and the women in your lives know that you are not misogynists. Fantastic words Arcadia, &amp; H, I hope this illustrates to our critics that we are a cosmopolitan bunch from many places in the world, not just male and female, but also different nationalities and races.
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hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman:

We Wonder Women love our Super Men

 art by Jeff Hubert


To all the men who are a part of this group and the whole Superman/Wonder Woman fandom. This was written by one of our female members called Arcadia. Arcadia is a strong, professional woman who was baffled at the accusations leveled at Charles and the men who support us and this tumblr by a certain other blog that claims it is about speaking on behalf of women. Rather we should say it speaks on behalf of a group of women with a particular interest. As a woman myself who post much of these images here, I support Charles, and his right to freedom of expression and I claim my right as a woman to speak for myself.

 

Arcadia in a very heartfelt post had this to say and the women of Hellyeahsupermanwonderwoman, the Superman/Wonder Woman Yahoo group, Superman Wonder Woman on Deviant Art, and the Fan Archive and Fan Fiction.Net, Fan Pop and many other brother and sisters sites want to join hands as we agree with what she had to say….

 

I am a female, I have feministic views, I am independent, I am confident in myself that I don’t need to tear others down to make myself look good and I LOVE MY MEN IN THE SMWW GROUP!
 

I love your wit. I love your intelligence. I love your sensitivity. I love your honesty. I love your optimism. I love your kindness. I love your geekiness. I love your admiration, love and respect you have for your wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters, neices, female cousins, aunts and grandmothers. Yes, yes I know you have the same feelings for the males in your life but I’m on a roll here. Don’t stop me. :) I love your masculinity. I love your confidence. I love how you will stand your ground even when you are on an island alone. Right now I am thinking of you, Ben, during the tournament where you were the only male and only person (until I voted) to support Superman beating Wonder Woman. You could’ve joined Mark and Donny in jumping the Wonder Woman bandwagon but you, my friend, stood your ground and I proudly stand with you. LOL! I love having thought provoking conversations be it SM/WW or real world events.

I love your sick, twisted humor. Donny, Mark, Paul and Ron I think of you. I love your humility. I love how you are not afraid to be vulnerable and open because you know we got your back here. I think of you Paul when you lost your dog and you Donny when Little C was born. I love how you put it all out there sometimes embarrassing yourself even though you make us laugh. I think of your funny stories, Donny. One story comes to mind between you, your wife and your sister-in-law. LOL!  And you Robenson, how you admit to not understanding women until you married your wife. I love how you have our backs as well. When reviewers attacked H, Meejay or me for our stories and art, you know what to say to make us feel better or you come to our defense. I love how much of a gentleman you all are. I think of you Henry and your wonderful gift when I went to New York and I especially thank you, Mark, for looking out for me as well. I couldn’t have made my way through New York without you. I treasure the memories. There are so many things I love about you all but most of all I love your respect for women!
 
So, if anyone attacks you verbally, accuses you of misogyny or anything vile don’t worry about their misguided hate, don’t let them beat you down from your beliefs. Stand up and hold your ground. Real feminist including the women in our group and the women in your lives know that you are not misogynists.

Fantastic words Arcadia, & H, I hope this illustrates to our critics that we are a cosmopolitan bunch from many places in the world, not just male and female, but also different nationalities and races.

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hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: Friends and Followers of this Blog. You’re probably aware that Hell Yeah Superman and Wonder Woman stands accused over at dcwomenkickingass tumblr of being ” openly insulting and offensive to other women in comics fandom and it has repeatedly included misogynistic and degrading comments about Lois Lane and even worse it has placed judgements on all of the women who love her.  It’s a site that has quite literally attempted to police feminism through misogynistic statements and treated other female fans who have questioned the behavior and asked the behavior to stop with extreme disrespect and insults.” Initially we ignored this here, and attempted a dialogue over at dcwomenkickingass page via Disqus. Suddenly our comments and those of other contributors and friends of this blog were greeted with a warning that comments were being moderated. These comments subsequently didn’t appear. Currently some comments are getting through, and this is welcome, although the reality that previous attempts have failed isn’t encouraging. Was this cockup or conspiracy? We’ll let you decide. Yet this isn’t the reason why I post this quote. ” I do have a problem with the posts involve derogatory language about other female characters. It’s a shame that you have to take that tact. And that attitude is certainly not any kind of trip to obscurity. There’s another Wonder Woman shipping site that is VERY popular despite displaying homophobic attitudes and using proxy servers on my site .” The implication is clear - that the success of this new to tumblr blog is because you our followers accept - and or even approve of the “derogatory language about other female characters” Of course we refute these allegations as untrue - but in the spirit of the ideals Superman and Wonder Woman were created to embody, it is beholden on us to be open and honest about these allegations. These posts have been flagged on dcwomenkickingass’s blog as offensive. http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… http://hellyeahsupermanandwond… The bottom line is this, those who liked and or reblogged any of these posts also stand accused. We accept that we’ve used comics to poke fun at the characters involved, but not that any of this was intended to be, or was offensive to the reasonably minded. We’re been open and honest about this because we genuinely want to create a fun blog that celebrates our favourite characters. We do this as much for you as we do this for ourselves. So again we remind everyone that we accept ASK and provide an easy to use comment service via Disqus. Thanks for following.
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hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman:

Friends and Followers of this Blog. You’re probably aware that Hell Yeah Superman and Wonder Woman stands accused over at dcwomenkickingass tumblr of being

” openly insulting and offensive to other women in comics fandom and it has repeatedly included misogynistic and degrading comments about Lois Lane and even worse it has placed judgements on all of the women who love her.  It’s a site that has quite literally attempted to police feminism through misogynistic statements and treated other female fans who have questioned the behavior and asked the behavior to stop with extreme disrespect and insults.”

Initially we ignored this here, and attempted a dialogue over at dcwomenkickingass page via Disqus. Suddenly our comments and those of other contributors and friends of this blog were greeted with a warning that comments were being moderated.

These comments subsequently didn’t appear.

Currently some comments are getting through, and this is welcome, although the reality that previous attempts have failed isn’t encouraging.

Was this cockup or conspiracy? We’ll let you decide.

Yet this isn’t the reason why I post this quote.

” I do have a problem with the posts involve derogatory language about other female characters. It’s a shame that you have to take that tact. And that attitude is certainly not any kind of trip to obscurity. There’s another Wonder Woman shipping site that is VERY popular despite displaying homophobic attitudes and using proxy servers on my site .”

The implication is clear - that the success of this new to tumblr blog is because you our followers accept - and or even approve of the “derogatory language about other female characters”

Of course we refute these allegations as untrue - but in the spirit of the ideals Superman and Wonder Woman were created to embody, it is beholden on us to be open and honest about these allegations.

These posts have been flagged on dcwomenkickingass’s blog as offensive.

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…


http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

http://hellyeahsupermanandwond…

The bottom line is this, those who liked and or reblogged any of these posts also stand accused.

We accept that we’ve used comics to poke fun at the characters involved, but not that any of this was intended to be, or was offensive to the reasonably minded.

We’re been open and honest about this because we genuinely want to create a fun blog that celebrates our favourite characters.

We do this as much for you as we do this for ourselves. So again we remind everyone that we accept ASK and provide an easy to use comment service via Disqus.

Thanks for following.


(via hellacre13)