hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman:

Kurt Busiek explains why Lois not being married to Superman is actually “the classic Superman”

And posts some compelling ( and familiar scans to this blog ) to make his argument.

As Kurt says (in the comments section of this Blog ). “has Superman been married for so long that people can’t remember or imagine the days when he was single, and explored various possible romances rather than having one single exclusive love interest?”

I couldn’t put it better myself.

“All this sounds a whole lot like the classic Superman, with a modern-looking spin on the costume.”

baudyhallee: Yes, Clark, your Post Crisis marriage was just a dream and maybe not even that. With respect to the original poster, there are other fans like myself who are cautiously optimistic, nay even excited by the relaunch. All Star Superman - in which Clark was not married to Lois [ nor had confided in her his secret, until at least faced with his own impending death ], or the more mature if conflicted Superman of Kingdom Come - were more interesting than canon Superman. Sales and critical acclaim support that. Personally I find the marriage logically inconsistent.  (although it was an interesting diversion in an imaginary what if elseworlds kind of way ) In short I agree with Jerry Siegel. Whatever your views for or against these changes I do however endorse baudyhallee’s suggestion that you let DC know what you think! Thanks! Here are the peeps: Diane Nelson, President Dan Didio, Co-Publisher Jim Lee, Co-Publisher Matt Idelson, Senior Editor The main DC offices are here: DC Comics 1700 Broadway, 7th floor New York, NY 10019-5905 Phone: 212-636-5400 Fax: 212-636-5481 You can also reach DC through DC Letters email.  Here is that webpage:  DC Letters Page Make your voice heard and QUICKLY!
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baudyhallee:

Yes, Clark, your Post Crisis marriage was just a dream and maybe not even that.

With respect to the original poster, there are other fans like myself who are cautiously optimistic, nay even excited by the relaunch.

All Star Superman - in which Clark was not married to Lois [ nor had confided in her his secret, until at least faced with his own impending death ], or the more mature if conflicted Superman of Kingdom Come - were more interesting than canon Superman.

Sales and critical acclaim support that.

Personally I find the marriage logically inconsistent. 

(although it was an interesting diversion in an imaginary what if elseworlds kind of way )

In short I agree with Jerry Siegel.

Whatever your views for or against these changes I do however endorse baudyhallee’s suggestion that you let DC know what you think!

Thanks!

Here are the peeps:

Diane Nelson, President

Dan Didio, Co-Publisher

Jim Lee, Co-Publisher

Matt Idelson, Senior Editor

The main DC offices are here:

DC Comics

1700 Broadway, 7th floor

New York, NY 10019-5905

Phone: 212-636-5400

Fax: 212-636-5481

You can also reach DC through DC Letters email.  Here is that webpage:  DC Letters Page

Make your voice heard and QUICKLY!

hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman: Image by Joelk75 via Flickr GailSimone     “Amazing facts: lots of female readers like comics. They are not specimens to be categorized. They like a spectrum of comics. IMAGINE THAT.” Girls Read Comic Books Why I read comics? - by Hellacre13You have to buy into a/the characters and for me that means good character development and a reason to love them and does not mean only about a ship. A ship comes along and hooks you IF it is good and feels natural to the character and does not somehow, to me at least, make the character’s motivations as a hero/heroine suspect.Case in mind Steve Trevor. Redeeming qualities? Not much and pretty much an air head. Lois Lane. Can’t stand the damsel in distress/human girlfriend/ so called “normal” archytype who waits for the white knight to save her. I identify with the heroine, as I am sure many young girls do, who like WW or Buffy or Lara Croft. Why should I want to be Lois Lane? Or Vicky Vale? Cause I get Superman? Pluease. I want to be able to kick his ass as well as be able to stand shoulder to shoulder with him and watch his back. I guess that’s why I am IN Catwoman’s corner too. She is an anti hero/ not the typical love interest. I loved WW since Lynda Carter but not enough to buy comics. It had to take a special book to hook me and that book was Kingdom Come…a book Gail claims to hate how WW is written. Well I thought her WW in her run had more hubris than KC WW anyway. But KC as you know, showed a side of comics that canon DC gloss over. It’s more humanistic than what DC claim to be human about their heroes.The George Perez’s WW made all the difference. He gave WW a REAL reason to become a hero. As a reader and it has crap to do with being female… I want my hero to have a motivation I genuinely admire and can get into their corner. Diana is gifted and leaves home behind. I see a woman who is full of humanity and who is a stranger in a foreign  land, who happens to be a hero. It’s why I admire Superman…the man who can straddle two worlds and be a hero despite all that power. Both stand for something eternal.So this reader doesn’t care about one true love crap and I can’t live without you crap. It does not make for good compelling stories. The hero’s journey. That is what I want to read about. You want me – and readers like me - to swap books for comics… then write as a you would plot books with intelligence and I don’t want romcom either. I guess I want what boys want. Is that so hard?But access is a huge factor. I picked up KC in a library. TV and movies was not the reason I picked up on DC. So advertise maybe?Single comic issues are very difficult to follow, as a female fan who don’t have time to go to comic shops. I have mentioned this before. Monthly issues and digital comics might help here.The whole medium of comics is geared towards males I feel and I can enjoy male writers as much I as I do female. One has nothing to do with the other.If DC women were right then many females who they are labelling would buy comics. Fact females buy manga but manga is more fearless than DC comics.Feel free to quote me…working single professional…who picked up comics in mytwenties… I do not fit geek profile or ran off cause of some tv show, or romance tobuy comics but I picked up my first book because I was intrigued by a story.Bottom line women want what men want. People want good writing and real characterdevelopment, thank you, else why bother following a character?
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hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman:

wonder woman smacks lois lane
Image by Joelk75 via Flickr

GailSimone    
“Amazing facts: lots of female readers like comics. They are not specimens to be categorized. They like a spectrum of comics. IMAGINE THAT.”

Girls Read Comic Books

Why I read comics? - by Hellacre13

You have to buy into a/the characters and for me that means good character development and a reason to love them and does not mean only about a ship. A ship comes along and hooks you IF it is good and feels natural to the character and does not somehow, to me at least, make the character’s motivations as a hero/heroine suspect.

Case in mind Steve Trevor. Redeeming qualities? Not much and pretty much an air head. Lois Lane. Can’t stand the damsel in distress/human girlfriend/ so called “normal” archytype who waits for the white knight to save her.

I identify with the heroine, as I am sure many young girls do, who like WW or Buffy or Lara Croft.

Why should I want to be Lois Lane? Or Vicky Vale? Cause I get Superman? Pluease.


I want to be able to kick his ass as well as be able to stand shoulder to shoulder with him and watch his back. I guess that’s why I am IN Catwoman’s corner too. She is an anti hero/ not the typical love interest.


I loved WW since Lynda Carter but not enough to buy comics. It had to take a special book to hook me and that book was Kingdom Come…a book Gail claims to hate how WW is written. Well I thought her WW in her run had more hubris than KC WW anyway. But KC as you know, showed a side of comics that canon DC gloss over. It’s more humanistic than what DC claim to be human about their heroes.

The George Perez’s WW made all the difference. He gave WW a REAL reason to become a hero. As a reader and it has crap to do with being female…

I want my hero to have a motivation I genuinely admire and can get into their corner. Diana is gifted and leaves home behind. I see a woman who is full of humanity and who is a stranger in a foreign  land, who happens to be a hero. It’s why I admire Superman…the man who can straddle two worlds and be a hero despite all that power. Both stand for something eternal.

So this reader doesn’t care about one true love crap and I can’t live without you crap. It does not make for good compelling stories. The hero’s journey. That is what I want to read about.

You want me – and readers like me - to swap books for comics… then write as a you would plot books with intelligence and I don’t want romcom either.

I guess I want what boys want. Is that so hard?

But access is a huge factor. I picked up KC in a library. TV and movies was not the reason I picked up on DC. So advertise maybe?

Single comic issues are very difficult to follow, as a female fan who don’t have time to go to comic shops. I have mentioned this before. Monthly issues and digital comics might help here.

The whole medium of comics is geared towards males I feel and I can enjoy male writers as much I as I do female. One has nothing to do with the other.

If DC women were right then many females who they are labelling would buy comics.

Fact females buy manga but manga is more fearless than DC comics.

Feel free to quote me…working single professional…who picked up comics in my
twenties… I do not fit geek profile or ran off cause of some tv show, or romance to
buy comics but I picked up my first book because I was intrigued by a story.

Bottom line women want what men want. People want good writing and real character
development, thank you, else why bother following a character?

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